Post by Fool Coyote on Mar 25, 2008 23:59:05 GMT -5
"He said that it was a ges for him to carry anyone who would not call him by his name.
"What is your name?" she asked.
"Fer Benn," he said.
"That name is too much!" she said, "Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn."
"That is indeed not my name," he said.
"What is?" she asked.
"Fer Benn Bruach," he answered.
"Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn Bruach," she said.
"That is not my name," he said.
"What is?" she asked. Then he told her the whole thing. She replied immediately and said, "Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn Bruach Brogaill Broumide Cerbad Caic Rolaig Builc Labair Cerrce Di Brig Oldathair Boith Athgen mBethai Brigtere Tri Carboid Roth Rimaire Riog Scotbe Obthe Olaithbe. Get up, carry me away from here!""
-Cath Maige Tuireadh
In all it An Daogdae (The Dagdha) son of Elada, and brother of Ogma, has about 26 names, some of these are listed above, I am working on getting them all translated. An Dagdha's names are many, and are for the multitude of skills he possessed. He is "Eochaidh Ollathair" the great sky horse of the many! He is said to be a great fertility God as given by the text, and is an obvious association to the agricultural aspects of the land. According to The "Taking of the Sidhe", he is the protector of milk of cows and the corn of the land, and in the "wooing of Etain" he controls the land and the weather. He is a very sexual being given his associations to an Mhór Rioghain at the first Oiche Shamhna (The eve of Samhain) at the river Unius, and Boann at the river Boyne. In this way he becomes a god of fertility and in some views the father of the gods and as such something of an "Adam" figure. While I'm not sure how much I agree with comparing him to Adam, I do see the association.
He is "Ruadh Ro-Fheasa" or the Red one of great knowledge as well as the all knowing noble. Red is the color of a warrior, the Irish would often assign the color red to their warrior gods. An Dagdha carried a double edged club into battle. It is said that one end of this great club once swung could kill nine men in one stroke, and that the other end could restore them to life. It was so large that it required the effort of eight men to carry it. As a holder of one of the four treasures the Dagdha can certainly be seen as a leader of the Tuatha de Danann, though I think his appearance may have been to "unsightly" to have been considered as one of the flawless "Ard-ri" of Ireland. He is described as follows:
"His belly was as big as a house cauldron, and the Fomoire laughed at it.
Then he went away from them to Traigh Eabha. It was not easy for the warrior to move along on account of the size of his belly. His appearance was unsightly: he had a cape to the hollow of his elbows, and a gray-brown tunic around him as far as the swelling of his rump. He trailed behind him a wheeled fork which was the work of eight men to move, and its track was enough for the boundary ditch of a province. It is called "The Track of the Dagda's Club" for that reason. His long penis was uncovered. He had on two shoes of horsehide with the hair outside."
-Cath Maige Tuired Stanza 93
While his appearance was "unsightly" the Dagdha was the Druid of the Gods. His treasure was known as the "Undry" from which no company ever left unsatisfied. It was sometimes referred to as "Uinde" meaning the "act of beholding". Within each of our seeking of paths, we sample from this cauldron of plenty. In your questing spirit, you have tasted of the cup of brotherhood and sisterhood, a common cup that is continuously refilled, no matter how many times it is drained, an Dagdha's Undry Cauldron. It is a cauldron of plenty, a cauldron of rebirth (a rebirth of Celtic nature), a cauldron of life and death, in this way it becomes one of the four treasures brought to Ireland during creation, or re creation depending on your views of the ancient texts. He is at times know as "Fios" which anyone who keeps up with my posts can tell you means the inquiry of knowledge, and is one of the three forms of Druidic knowledge.
An Dagdha also, as a Druid, and master of poetry, music, and song, kept a great enchanted harp called the Daur da bla "Oak of two greens" or the Coir cethar chuir "Four angled music." In this way he also earns the name "Aed Alainn" which basically translates to "fire swift and beautiful". The Dagdha is the Father of Bridget who's name means the daughter of fire, and who is the goddess of fire, fire in the head not to put to fine of a point on it. An Dogdha is a God of many associations. He is a master of times it's self, he is musician and carpenter, he is creator, and destroyer, poet and warrior, scholar and cretin, and a dweller of the Sidhe.
It is no accident IMO that the Dagdha is depicted in the myths as he is. This strange member of the Gentry, for any look at mythologies around the world will show that the keeper(s) of absolute knowledge and wisdom are usually flawed physically. Even the Norse Odin had to sacrifice his eye. The greatest of gods and wisest of humans often appear physically to be the opposite. There is a valuable lesson to be learned about the other world in this truth. NEVER take anything by it's appearance, don't judge a book by it's cover, search for the hidden aspects of all things. This also enforces the Celt's beliefs that under Brehon Law, no matter how absurd looking, or ugly a person may be, each individual is unique, but equal to the next.
Along with Lugh, and Ogma, an Dagdha was one of the three gods of Danu. They are first, second and third generation tuatha, and are the great wisdom keepers of time, creation, inspiration, destruction and chaos. To me they represent the most basic primal levels at which land, sea, and sky become separated. As such I will leave this post....
I am the child of poetry,
Poetry, child of reflection,
Reflection, child of meditation,
Meditation, child of lore,
Lore child of research,
Research child of great knowledge,
Great knowledge, child of intelligence,
Intelligence, child of understanding,
Understanding, child of wisdom,
Wisdom, child of the three gods of Danu.
Some sources and suggested reading:
www.sacred-texts.com/neu/cmt/cmteng.htm
draeconin.com/database/dagda.htm
www.maryjones.us/jce/dagda.html
www.ucc.ie/celt/online/T300012/text001.html
"Athert an Daogdae, 'An cumang arba/gaid-si/, doge/n-sou ule am a/onur.' "
Cath Maige Tuired
"Then said the Dagdha, all these powers you've boasted you will comand, I will myself command"
-The Second Battle of Mag Tuired Stanza 81
Senbecc
"What is your name?" she asked.
"Fer Benn," he said.
"That name is too much!" she said, "Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn."
"That is indeed not my name," he said.
"What is?" she asked.
"Fer Benn Bruach," he answered.
"Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn Bruach," she said.
"That is not my name," he said.
"What is?" she asked. Then he told her the whole thing. She replied immediately and said, "Get up, carry me on your back, Fer Benn Bruach Brogaill Broumide Cerbad Caic Rolaig Builc Labair Cerrce Di Brig Oldathair Boith Athgen mBethai Brigtere Tri Carboid Roth Rimaire Riog Scotbe Obthe Olaithbe. Get up, carry me away from here!""
-Cath Maige Tuireadh
In all it An Daogdae (The Dagdha) son of Elada, and brother of Ogma, has about 26 names, some of these are listed above, I am working on getting them all translated. An Dagdha's names are many, and are for the multitude of skills he possessed. He is "Eochaidh Ollathair" the great sky horse of the many! He is said to be a great fertility God as given by the text, and is an obvious association to the agricultural aspects of the land. According to The "Taking of the Sidhe", he is the protector of milk of cows and the corn of the land, and in the "wooing of Etain" he controls the land and the weather. He is a very sexual being given his associations to an Mhór Rioghain at the first Oiche Shamhna (The eve of Samhain) at the river Unius, and Boann at the river Boyne. In this way he becomes a god of fertility and in some views the father of the gods and as such something of an "Adam" figure. While I'm not sure how much I agree with comparing him to Adam, I do see the association.
He is "Ruadh Ro-Fheasa" or the Red one of great knowledge as well as the all knowing noble. Red is the color of a warrior, the Irish would often assign the color red to their warrior gods. An Dagdha carried a double edged club into battle. It is said that one end of this great club once swung could kill nine men in one stroke, and that the other end could restore them to life. It was so large that it required the effort of eight men to carry it. As a holder of one of the four treasures the Dagdha can certainly be seen as a leader of the Tuatha de Danann, though I think his appearance may have been to "unsightly" to have been considered as one of the flawless "Ard-ri" of Ireland. He is described as follows:
"His belly was as big as a house cauldron, and the Fomoire laughed at it.
Then he went away from them to Traigh Eabha. It was not easy for the warrior to move along on account of the size of his belly. His appearance was unsightly: he had a cape to the hollow of his elbows, and a gray-brown tunic around him as far as the swelling of his rump. He trailed behind him a wheeled fork which was the work of eight men to move, and its track was enough for the boundary ditch of a province. It is called "The Track of the Dagda's Club" for that reason. His long penis was uncovered. He had on two shoes of horsehide with the hair outside."
-Cath Maige Tuired Stanza 93
While his appearance was "unsightly" the Dagdha was the Druid of the Gods. His treasure was known as the "Undry" from which no company ever left unsatisfied. It was sometimes referred to as "Uinde" meaning the "act of beholding". Within each of our seeking of paths, we sample from this cauldron of plenty. In your questing spirit, you have tasted of the cup of brotherhood and sisterhood, a common cup that is continuously refilled, no matter how many times it is drained, an Dagdha's Undry Cauldron. It is a cauldron of plenty, a cauldron of rebirth (a rebirth of Celtic nature), a cauldron of life and death, in this way it becomes one of the four treasures brought to Ireland during creation, or re creation depending on your views of the ancient texts. He is at times know as "Fios" which anyone who keeps up with my posts can tell you means the inquiry of knowledge, and is one of the three forms of Druidic knowledge.
An Dagdha also, as a Druid, and master of poetry, music, and song, kept a great enchanted harp called the Daur da bla "Oak of two greens" or the Coir cethar chuir "Four angled music." In this way he also earns the name "Aed Alainn" which basically translates to "fire swift and beautiful". The Dagdha is the Father of Bridget who's name means the daughter of fire, and who is the goddess of fire, fire in the head not to put to fine of a point on it. An Dogdha is a God of many associations. He is a master of times it's self, he is musician and carpenter, he is creator, and destroyer, poet and warrior, scholar and cretin, and a dweller of the Sidhe.
It is no accident IMO that the Dagdha is depicted in the myths as he is. This strange member of the Gentry, for any look at mythologies around the world will show that the keeper(s) of absolute knowledge and wisdom are usually flawed physically. Even the Norse Odin had to sacrifice his eye. The greatest of gods and wisest of humans often appear physically to be the opposite. There is a valuable lesson to be learned about the other world in this truth. NEVER take anything by it's appearance, don't judge a book by it's cover, search for the hidden aspects of all things. This also enforces the Celt's beliefs that under Brehon Law, no matter how absurd looking, or ugly a person may be, each individual is unique, but equal to the next.
Along with Lugh, and Ogma, an Dagdha was one of the three gods of Danu. They are first, second and third generation tuatha, and are the great wisdom keepers of time, creation, inspiration, destruction and chaos. To me they represent the most basic primal levels at which land, sea, and sky become separated. As such I will leave this post....
I am the child of poetry,
Poetry, child of reflection,
Reflection, child of meditation,
Meditation, child of lore,
Lore child of research,
Research child of great knowledge,
Great knowledge, child of intelligence,
Intelligence, child of understanding,
Understanding, child of wisdom,
Wisdom, child of the three gods of Danu.
Some sources and suggested reading:
www.sacred-texts.com/neu/cmt/cmteng.htm
draeconin.com/database/dagda.htm
www.maryjones.us/jce/dagda.html
www.ucc.ie/celt/online/T300012/text001.html
"Athert an Daogdae, 'An cumang arba/gaid-si/, doge/n-sou ule am a/onur.' "
Cath Maige Tuired
"Then said the Dagdha, all these powers you've boasted you will comand, I will myself command"
-The Second Battle of Mag Tuired Stanza 81
Senbecc
... I knew all 3 of them but I did not know that they were the 3 first generations of the Tuatha. Great post! 
